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  • RWD / 3.4 DOHC (96 / 97)

    Hello All

    Just wondering if anyone has any inputs for building a RWD non Fiero car?

    Any inputs would be greatly appriciated as to Automatic Trans. and or manual 5/6 Speed.

    Would probably start thinking of using an early Firebird.

    Any Ideas??

    Thanks

    John

  • #2
    Theres a 3.4 F-body around here somewhere...

    THere are also a handfull of RWD W-bodys floating around...

    I think no matter what you go with, itll be tough

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    • #3
      one up... www.cardomain.com/id/soccrplayergtp

      Tremec T-56 mated to a Northstar motor in a '94 GTP. lots of work...

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      • #4
        what'd he say he had invested, over 4000 in that GTP trying to get it RWD.
        2001 Mustang GT
        1991 5spd Lumina Z34 - Dead
        1947 4spd International - Dead... Reincarnation pending.. getting close now .

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        • #5
          he at about $4500 now, will end at around $5000

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          • #6
            i think some1 put a 3.4 dohc into a miata. other than that try older japanese cars like a supra or rx7, umm i think chevettes might be rwd not sure though
            The Official Rotating Mass Nazi

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            • #7
              Originally posted by heza
              he at about $4500 now, will end at around $5000
              5 grand for 300 horsepower-It'd be easy just to leave it FWD, 3.4L TDC, and still beat the N*. And you'd come out much lower than $5,000, MAYBE 1 grand. But it is unique, and did take a lot of work I bet.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Aaron
                Originally posted by heza
                he at about $4500 now, will end at around $5000
                5 grand for 300 horsepower-It'd be easy just to leave it FWD, 3.4L TDC, and still beat the N*. And you'd come out much lower than $5,000, MAYBE 1 grand. But it is unique, and did take a lot of work I bet.
                you go ahead and give me one scenario when a 3.4 DOHC will beat a 6 speed Northstar. go ahead...i need a good laugh.

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                • #9
                  i am inclined to agree. even though the northstar is a piece of shit after a certain amount of miles(stictly my opinion) and very expensive and difficult to work on(opinion backed by facts).

                  granted the northstar is functioning correctly, i can't see a scenerio where the 3.4 dohc would stand a chance(n/a vs n/a) unless the northstar powered car couldn't hook.

                  but not to stray off the topic if i had the time, cash and equiptment to do a rear drive 3.4 tdc, i would put it in a small car that was already rear drive.

                  i don't think a rear drive 3.4 dohc would be much fun though b/c of the lack of torque as much as some might not like it a rear drive l67 in a small car would be fun but not as much as a northstar (until it needs maintainence anyway)

                  ask evilmiata i think that is who it was that had the 3.4dohc miata.
                  The Official Rotating Mass Nazi

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by heza
                    one up... www.cardomain.com/id/soccrplayergtp

                    Tremec T-56 mated to a Northstar motor in a '94 GTP. lots of work...


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by heza
                      Originally posted by Aaron
                      Originally posted by heza
                      he at about $4500 now, will end at around $5000
                      5 grand for 300 horsepower-It'd be easy just to leave it FWD, 3.4L TDC, and still beat the N*. And you'd come out much lower than $5,000, MAYBE 1 grand. But it is unique, and did take a lot of work I bet.
                      you go ahead and give me one scenario when a 3.4 DOHC will beat a 6 speed Northstar. go ahead...i need a good laugh.
                      A 280hp Z34(3.4L TDC) will own a 300hp RWD N*. Drivetrain loss. ANd getting 280hp out of a 3.4L TDC isn't hard at all.

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                      • #12
                        Getting 380 HP out of a N* is just as easy.....cams, springs, and tune. The drivetrain loss through the T56 is ~12%, which is about what you would get out of a FWD. You sing the praises of a TDC at 8K rpm...a N* at 9K is even better.

                        Marty
                        '99 Z-28 - Weekend Driver
                        '98 Dodge Neon - Winter Beater
                        '84 X-11 - Time and Money Pit
                        '88 Fiero Formula - Bone stock for now

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                        Originally posted by Aaron
                        This is why I don't build crappy headers. I'm not sure, I don't know too much about welding.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RacerX11
                          Getting 380 HP out of a N* is just as easy.....cams, springs, and tune. The drivetrain loss through the T56 is ~12%, which is about what you would get out of a FWD. You sing the praises of a TDC at 8K rpm...a N* at 9K is even better.

                          Marty
                          I bet it is. I am not anti the N*, I just believe that all of that work, SOLELY for horsepower, is a complete waste. Now if he was doing it for the uniqueness, fun factor, etc, then it is worth every penny becuz that's what he wants, and that's what he got.

                          It isn't only the trannsmission that gives drivetrain loss, its also the drive shaft, the diff, and everything else. The FWD transaxle is much more efficient, although from how you present it, the N*'s drivetrain isn't that bad at all, and surely not as bad as some(Dodge Intrepids...)

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                          • #14
                            Ok aaron...i think you need a reality check. Northstar throws your stupid 2 valve disadvantage out the window. Larger displacement and 2 more cylinders....far more potential than the 3.4 DOHC. Next you will tell me your fiero will beat a turbo hyabusa.

                            If travis did it because he wanted hp, its still not a waste. If you want to discuss this further, why don't you email someone that cares.

                            Hijack another thread, and im banning your ass. If someone can show me where i have said this before, please let me know. I know I have warned him for so many things its stupid.
                            Ben
                            60DegreeV6.com
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                            • #15
                              Up until now I had no idea what soccerplayergp was up to. Just wow. I love N*!
                              Brian

                              '95 Cutlass Supreme- "The Rig"
                              3400 SFI V6, 4T60e
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