new guy, big ideas!

[singleslammer]

I know that title probably paints a dismal picture for some of you but I promise Im not that much of an idiot. My wife probably disagrees, but hey I cant satisfy everyone.

Here are my thoughts: 3500 swap into a 93 toyota 4runner. But wait isnt that silly! Not really, when you get the details. There is a guy that did a 3800 swap (yes I know that they are evil motors used exclusively by knobs) with the stock(ish) yota transmission. Here is how he did it.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...highlight=3800

Clif's notes version: The toyota trans is used in all sorts of vehicles. Included are the dodge dakota and jeep wrangler (I think, could be an xj). With the input shaft from one and a bell housing from another it will bolt right up to a GM 60 degree v6 and aforementioned evil 3800. Basically I think you guys are on to something with the 3500 over the 3800. The 3500 is smaller and lighter with similar power.

I have a question though. Are there oil pan options? I would need a rear sump pan and havent really found much on this. I will admit that I havent searched THAT hard which is a no no but I figured I would write it into my sweet thread and see if anyone had any thoughts on this.

Also if anyone has a link comparing the 3800 to the 3500 in physical dimensions that would be awesome. Not something I need but something cool never the less.

Just to throw this out there, I noticed that the LS4 shares this bell housing. Anyone know if this has been run in a rwd, North south orientation (ie not a fiero). I think this is probably too much motor for my application but worth a look.

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[singleslammer]

I think I put this in the wrong place. Moving to the other swap section.

[neophile_17]

If memory serves most people running or building longitudinal 3rd gen and up motors have to modify the oil pan or cross-member. I think that most looking for a longitudinal V8 just go for the V8s that are made for that orientation. Good luck with the project. It sounds interesting.

~sam

[bszopi]

First of, welcome to the site! And actually, this section is perfect for your thread, so I'll probably close your other one.

You definitely have an interesting project, but it first right in here. I mean hell, I'm putting a 3500 into a fox body Mustang! As was mentioned, you pretty much are going to need to modify the oil pan or the crossmember, as there aren't any other oil pans out there. You could potentially adapt an older gen stamped steel pan, but then you loose the benefit of the cross bolted mains that the 3x00s offer. I am currently in the (slow) process of determining just how much I have to hack up my oil pan to work. Let me tell you, its alot! In the end, I may just end up going with a dry sump setup.

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[singleslammer]

Got it, this forum it is!

So I am pretty much stuck with modding the pan, cause I cant very well mod an IFS dif. I knew you had to mod the pan the 3800 swap so I guess that makes sense. I will go and search around on here for pan related info.

[Superdave]

I put one in a '89 Camaro and had to use a different K member, you're probably better off modding the pan.

Excellent choice, the 3500 is a monster.

[Fastmax32168]

In my 1980 Monza the oil pan worked out fine. I had to hack all of the FWD mounts off of it but after I did that it fit and cleared.
Roy

[slowalero]

Have you toyed with the idea of converting your 'yota to a solid axle found on 1985 and older trucks?

[singleslammer]

I have thought about it. I like wheeling but so far the IFS has been able to handle what I want. I like the stock ride height as well. A SAS is a minimum of 3" lift with the average of at least 4". That's too tall for me.

[bob442]

i really like this setup, hope to see some updates and progress