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Making it work

Originally Posted by
Roadbastard
Trust me, you can get all that stuff for a very very very good price it just depends on what your goals are, especially when fully assembled LT's are around 1K now. Although this guy never said. Sure you can get V6's for cheap they are econo motors but the 8's for the camaro's are performance motors so they will cost a little more than the 6's. However, for performance you won't find a better deal really than swapping to the LT or LS. pcm.injectors, harnesses can all be had for cheap. This is just the wrong forum/place to talk about Camaro engine swaps.
If someone wants to stay with a 6 for the purpose of just keeping the car going with a moderate upgrade, the V6 is more sensible. But, if your trying looking to get something that rumbles and tune go with the 8. Some V6-V8 swaps are more difficult than others but the F-body swaps are simple and straight forward. Of course the point from doing the V6 to V8 swap in an F body isn't about just replacing the motor for the sake of it, it's all about the performance upgrade. The LT cam factory with about 275hp. But even with a simple hotcam kit you can push out 330hp to the wheels.
Anyway, I was just originally making a comment about the motor swap.
I doubt OP is really interested in that. He/she is just trying to get their car running.
"Cheap" is relative. It will cost more time/money to do a swap than you could just buy a v8 car for.
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09-07-2011 01:12 PM
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Because stock sucks...

Originally Posted by
bszopi
I guess I'm just a retard for swapping a GM V6 into a Mustang then... lol!
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Last edited by pocket-rocket; 09-07-2011 at 01:26 PM.
-60v6's 2nd Jon M.
91 Black Lumina Z34-5 speed
92 Black Lumina Z34 5 speed
94 Red Ford Ranger 2WD-5 speed

Originally Posted by
TGP37
Step up to a man trans, step up to a 5-speed.

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you could get a ls engine iron block 5.3 truck engine for under $1000. dont you guys read "hot rod" or "car craft" or anything? look on ebay? car-part.com? omg put a v8 in the thing! otherwise just fix what you got and be happy with it.
this is the first at the top of the list on ebay. these engines run forever and love boost! bullet-proof!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/5-3-L...item23133eb5c3
These engines are like hondas, the parts are so cheap and easy to find! like summit headers for like $150-200 (educated guess) compared to headers for our cars which people are asking $750 for a set?
Last edited by Daguse5853Z; 09-07-2011 at 09:24 PM.
95 Z26 3400/OBDII/GETRAG
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Originally Posted by
ForcedFirebird
"Cheap" is relative. It will cost more time/money to do a swap than you could just buy a v8 car for.
I dont agree with that statement either. I've built a few cars for cheaper then I could have bought it for. like my 96 S10 in the off topic section. Can you find a 4.3 5 speed with 78,000 miles on it for $2000? Thats what it cost me not counting my time involved. or my 97 Cavalier Z24 5 speed with 78,000 miles (yeah same mileage) for under 1000? you save alot of money when you do ALL the work yourself.....but then again im not married either
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Making it work

Originally Posted by
Daguse5853Z
you could get a ls engine iron block 5.3 truck engine for under $1000. dont you guys read "hot rod" or "car craft" or anything? look on ebay? car-part.com? omg put a v8 in the thing! otherwise just fix what you got and be happy with it.
this is the first at the top of the list on ebay. these engines run forever and love boost! bullet-proof!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/5-3-L...item23133eb5c3
These engines are like hondas, the parts are so cheap and easy to find! like summit headers for like $150-200 (educated guess) compared to headers for our cars which people are asking $750 for a set?
Why doesn't anyone understand you need all the v8 related parts including a transmission. Not that it can't be done but I have seen many many guys swap and they all wished they sold their v6 car and just bought one with a v8 in it. So, you can get the parts for $2k and do the work yourself when in reality you can sell your v6 car (even non-running) and add that $2k to it and just drive off with your v8.

Originally Posted by
Daguse5853Z
I dont agree with that statement either. I've built a few cars for cheaper then I could have bought it for. like my 96 S10 in the off topic section. Can you find a 4.3 5 speed with 78,000 miles on it for $2000? Thats what it cost me not counting my time involved. or my 97 Cavalier Z24 5 speed with 78,000 miles (yeah same mileage) for under 1000? you save alot of money when you do ALL the work yourself.....but then again im not married either

I am extremely familiar with budget racing and building. We built a track monster for $2k, but have hundreds maybe even thousands of man hours into it. Another team used that same 5.3 motor you linked in their car (they even used the same car) and we smoked them with our turbo 6. We were almost a 1/2 ton lighter.
And ads far as headers, you are comparing apples to oranges. There are headers out there for the v6 that are that cheap, but they aren't the same quality they are for the ones you pay $700 for. Just like you have Chinese headers and Headman or even Burns for the V8.
The OP asked what motors will bolt up on a 60v6 discussion board, the trans, cooling, wiring and mounts in the car are not v8 ready.
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Because stock sucks...

Originally Posted by
ForcedFirebird
The OP asked what motors will bolt up on a 60v6 discussion board, the trans, cooling, wiring and mounts in the car are not v8 ready.
^^^ This, and also the OP said...

Originally Posted by
bszopi
Posted on behalf of liquidmetal97...
v6 for life!
-60v6's 2nd Jon M.
91 Black Lumina Z34-5 speed
92 Black Lumina Z34 5 speed
94 Red Ford Ranger 2WD-5 speed

Originally Posted by
TGP37
Step up to a man trans, step up to a 5-speed.

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6 > 1

Originally Posted by
bszopi
I guess I'm just a retard for swapping a GM V6 into a Mustang then... lol!
Brad via Tapatalk
Same here.. i even pulled the running V8 out and gave it away..
in the end the car is 300+ lbs lighter, makes the same torque and has about 150 more HP... and gets better gas mileage.
1989 Camaro RS; Cammed 3500 swap, 45mm ITB's, Street/Strip Kitted 700R4, 3500 stall, Megashifter, 3.73 posi, EQ- LT headers, 2.25" True Duals, X pipe, etc...
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Originally Posted by
ForcedFirebird
Why doesn't anyone understand you need all the v8 related parts including a transmission.
I understand that, check out my swap in the off topic.
Now look at it this way. How much money are you going to spend getting that V6 into the ballpark of the V8's power? And then which is going to make that power more reliably? And then when those high strung v6's blow up or the turbos fry what is it going to cost to replace that stuff ? I'm sorry I'm saying put a V8 in it because it's a heavy car and for reliabilty if you want something better then the 3.4. Its a camaro not a cavalier. Thats pretty much my $0.02
Now we need to know what sort of build said camaro owner is wanting. Reliably power, Dare to be different power, Money is no object swap. And will it be a street car or will it be a race car? And this guy hasn't responded to this thread once the whole time lol. I imagine this thread would be better taken at a F-body forum as opposed to this forum.
Should this thread just get locked?
Last edited by Daguse5853Z; 09-11-2011 at 10:38 PM.
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Captain of the Failboat
Why would I lock the thread? I like watching you talk to yourself too much to do that. Hate your V6 car, sell it, buy a V8 car. Done.
Replying in regards to your high strung comment, or how you are frying turbos is not worth the effort. You already have your conclusion.
Ben
60DegreeV6.com
WOT-Tech.com
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Because stock sucks...
You can say get a v8 till you are blue in the face but the guy still wants a v6, so what's the use?
-60v6's 2nd Jon M.
91 Black Lumina Z34-5 speed
92 Black Lumina Z34 5 speed
94 Red Ford Ranger 2WD-5 speed

Originally Posted by
TGP37
Step up to a man trans, step up to a 5-speed.
