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    W-Body for Life! robertisaar's Avatar
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    i <3 Highway fuel.

    somehow, i managed to pull 38.1MPG out of the 90GP(LH0/4T60, 3.33FDR) once on a ~220 mile trip.

    highway spark is a MUST when high fuel is enabled, to make up for the lower flame speed at leaner AFRs.
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    I saw 40 going through Texas when my car was all stock. Gearing is HUGE! The 3 speed in my cavalier is killing it for me. I can't even get 30.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SappySE107 View Post
    On a grand am 3400, upgrading to 3500 heads and headers plus tuning showed 5-6 mpg increase.
    nice increase in mpg. wonder what my car get's for city/highway mpg's. i don't drive it enough on a regular basis to get real numbers.

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    3400/3500 -Solid trans mount--TCE 65mm T-body---85mm LS2 maf---1 1/4' TCE intake spacers with 3400 upper--SLP Catback with flowmaster 80--TOG headers
    Modded 3400 lifters with LT1 springs---Comp Cams 26986 Springs
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    15.232@88.85mph on stock 3400---New time to come



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    Quote Originally Posted by SappySE107 View Post
    This was with my old 3.1 MPFI grand prix, and it was comparing multiple tanks of gas with varied driving habits each time. Also compared at the drag strip for the power and ran the same times back to back to back to back.
    You forgot to mention that number haunted you no matter what strip it was at, too, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onefastV6 View Post
    I will be sure to post how my 3500 with the MPG cam and TOG headers works out... hoping to slap it back together yet this summer.
    So i guess i know why you sold me your old cam then??

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert 1980 View Post
    So i guess i know why you sold me your old cam then??
    I had two projects going for the longest time, one was going to be a performance build and the other an MPG build. I sold the car that was going to be the MPG mule and was going to stick with the performance build. Then I was having issues with my daily driver (dodge neon) and pretty much sold everything off to fund a new vehicle with the plan to put the grand am that is torn down in the garage back together with a stock 3500. With the way the used car market is I fixed my daily driver and I found the TOG headers for $350 and got the MPG Cam from Ben. Not enough time or money to do everything I want to, so I figure I might as well stick with the cheaper route and get a little more performance with a little better fuel economy.

    If that was your guess then you are correct
    Last edited by onefastV6; 07-15-2011 at 01:01 AM.
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    10-12 city and 30-35 highway with my 3500 in the old Z24 (5 speed, 3.61 FDR)... highway spark was a little past 40 degrees, LCM was enabled but the AFR's hovered in the low 16's during it's on-time. If i had a little less cam the city MPG would be much better.


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