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    Spinning out of control Weatheralls Auto's Avatar
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    trying to hack away at 3500 file

    tryin g to hack away at a 3500 04 malibu file, I think I have found the VE table, but not sure.

    This look like it might be the VE?

    http://www.scandepot.net/viewscan.php?pk=5099
    As of April 2
    3rd Gen Cavy has 3500 Installed!
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    Engine: 2006 SV6 3500 LX9
    Trans: 2002 Getrag F23 5speed
    Pcm: 2001 Impala La1 3400 with complete Engine Harness.
    Injectors: #36 GTPs
    TB: 65mm TCE
    Maf: 1999 3400 Montana.
    Adjustable TCE Fuel pressure Regulator
    Walbro W1 255 pump from Racetronix.
    Beverages: Ice Cold CANADIAN.

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    6 > 1 Superdave's Avatar
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    140kpa is like 6 PSI of boost if i'm not mistaken....

    i think you have 2 or more tables combined, look how the VE% drops off between 80 and 90, and below that the numbers seem all on the high side.


    1989 Camaro RS; Cammed 3500 swap, 45mm ITB's, Street/Strip Kitted 700R4, 3500 stall, Megashifter, 3.73 posi, EQ- LT headers, 2.25" True Duals, X pipe, etc...

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    I inserted the numbers into a table, I think 140kpa is standard ve table for OBD2?
    Ya, but I am not sure on the numbers, they just dont look right.
    As a compare, here is a stock 04 3400 Ve table
    http://www.scandepot.net/viewscan.php?pk=5044
    As of April 2
    3rd Gen Cavy has 3500 Installed!
    ----------------------------
    Engine: 2006 SV6 3500 LX9
    Trans: 2002 Getrag F23 5speed
    Pcm: 2001 Impala La1 3400 with complete Engine Harness.
    Injectors: #36 GTPs
    TB: 65mm TCE
    Maf: 1999 3400 Montana.
    Adjustable TCE Fuel pressure Regulator
    Walbro W1 255 pump from Racetronix.
    Beverages: Ice Cold CANADIAN.

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    an most def the numbers are way off, specially in the 90 to 100 kpa range.

    I will keep at it every once in a while lol.
    Hoping to learn to add vehicles to Tiny Tuner db, that and find where the DTCs are!
    As of April 2
    3rd Gen Cavy has 3500 Installed!
    ----------------------------
    Engine: 2006 SV6 3500 LX9
    Trans: 2002 Getrag F23 5speed
    Pcm: 2001 Impala La1 3400 with complete Engine Harness.
    Injectors: #36 GTPs
    TB: 65mm TCE
    Maf: 1999 3400 Montana.
    Adjustable TCE Fuel pressure Regulator
    Walbro W1 255 pump from Racetronix.
    Beverages: Ice Cold CANADIAN.

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    With some help I am making some headway.

    http://www.scandepot.net/viewscan.php?pk=5105

    looks much better?
    As of April 2
    3rd Gen Cavy has 3500 Installed!
    ----------------------------
    Engine: 2006 SV6 3500 LX9
    Trans: 2002 Getrag F23 5speed
    Pcm: 2001 Impala La1 3400 with complete Engine Harness.
    Injectors: #36 GTPs
    TB: 65mm TCE
    Maf: 1999 3400 Montana.
    Adjustable TCE Fuel pressure Regulator
    Walbro W1 255 pump from Racetronix.
    Beverages: Ice Cold CANADIAN.

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    I think someone has already done this because I have 3500 VE and MAF tables already.

    And yes the 3500 VE goes up to 140kPa

    And yes that is the VE that you have posted.

    They hacked the file and made it have a 3.8L OSID and most of the tables match up, so if you need something from it I can export it from DHP or Tiny Tuner.
    Last edited by 3400-95-Modified; 05-21-2010 at 11:54 AM.

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    I am more learning how to Add new Tables Maps and Osids etc

    I now have (I believe) the whole and correct Map and tables for the 04 Mali 3500 and is now included in my Tiny Tuners DB along with disabling DTCs.

    I believe we should see a goody for DHP to also allow us to add osids/cals and New vehicles

    Things ARE looking GOOD!
    As of April 2
    3rd Gen Cavy has 3500 Installed!
    ----------------------------
    Engine: 2006 SV6 3500 LX9
    Trans: 2002 Getrag F23 5speed
    Pcm: 2001 Impala La1 3400 with complete Engine Harness.
    Injectors: #36 GTPs
    TB: 65mm TCE
    Maf: 1999 3400 Montana.
    Adjustable TCE Fuel pressure Regulator
    Walbro W1 255 pump from Racetronix.
    Beverages: Ice Cold CANADIAN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3400-95-Modified View Post
    And yes the 3500 VE goes up to 140kPa
    GM code engineers, WTF?
    1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E, OBD1 Conversion...for now, future plans include a 3900, T04E-46 (Knock-Off) turbo (For the 3100, ~T61 for the 3900), and a F40.
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    boost them all!


    1989 Camaro RS; Cammed 3500 swap, 45mm ITB's, Street/Strip Kitted 700R4, 3500 stall, Megashifter, 3.73 posi, EQ- LT headers, 2.25" True Duals, X pipe, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superdave View Post
    boost them all!
    while i have NO issues with that ideology, are there any 1.5BAR MAP sensors out there? if so, the PCM would still need to know it and then scale everything accordingly.

    if there aren't and there is only 1,2 and higher, WTF is the point of going up to ~1.5BAR? the 1BAR can't read it and a 2BAR should read to ~210kPa... so why 140?

    was the LSD making rounds that day? or did someone not scale the VE tables correctly when they hacked through it? if you had a testbench, it would be easy enough to determine, but i find it more likely that the 4 extra entries in that table are actually 25,35,45,55 kPa. above 100 just doesn't make sense in a program that can only see up to 100...
    1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E, OBD1 Conversion...for now, future plans include a 3900, T04E-46 (Knock-Off) turbo (For the 3100, ~T61 for the 3900), and a F40.
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