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Thread: 1999 OLDS ALERO 3500 swap

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    1999 OLDS ALERO 3500 swap

    Putting together the final bits.

    Motor: MALIBU 04-05 4th VIN digit "Z", 3.5L (VIN 8, 8th digit) @ 13032
    Trans: GRAND AM 05 A.T.; 3.4L, 3.29 ratio opt FR9 @ 12,900

    Parts I've bought so far.

    Crank trigger
    3500 Swap FPR Bracket
    3500 Plenum TB Adapter

    Buying a cam and push rods Tuesday.

    Getting the hptuner this week or next week too.

    Is there anything else I'll need and/or should do while the motor and trans
    are out of the car? Is there any top-end parts I should have swapped?

    Would a after market crankshaft pulley be a good idea?

    Any suggestions for cold air-intake? I've googled around a little but haven't
    found anything specific I can say will work.

    I figure I can do headers later unless that is something I should do now?

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    If you can do the headers from the start they make a significant difference, but they aren't cheap.

    What cam are you looking at?

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    cam: 3118/3118

    Nothing extreme, but should give it a nice kick.

    The only headers I could find was S&S headers below. Ceramic Coating
    shouldn't be needed for non-racing applications? At least if I read about it
    correctly.

    http://www.headermania.com/mm5/merch...de=V6HeadersOA

    Would I need/want to get 3500 Header Gaskets from the wot-tech store?



    Maybe a stupid question, but would they hook up to the stock exhaust or
    will I need to take it to a shop to get it quiet again? I plan to replace the
    rear bumper down the road so it has the dual exhaust outlets but I don't
    know if I can swing that, new exhaust and headers. It's on the list as well
    as a half a dozen other things... Used cars with 220,000 miles can be a
    bit ran down. Albeit nice too. Except the hail damage.

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    Those headers are actually designed for an Alero so they should match up to your exhaust, or at least be close.

    And ceramic coating will make them last longer and look better.

    I forget how much S&S charges. You may be able to get it done cheaper locally.

    They come with header gaskets which are fine.

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    im assuming your doing the 3500 on a 99 alero like stated in the thread title. if yes than the headers will bolt up no problem. they will fit like a glove.

    99 Grand Am GT
    3400/3500 -Solid trans mount--TCE 65mm T-body---85mm LS2 maf---1 1/4' TCE intake spacers with 3400 upper--SLP Catback with flowmaster 80--TOG headers
    Modded 3400 lifters with LT1 springs---Comp Cams 26986 Springs
    1357 cam 227 233 .050 dur
    515 515 lift 112 lsa
    15.232@88.85mph on stock 3400---New time to come



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    Yeah a 3500, I'm picking up the motor on Monday. Paying for the
    cam/pushrods tuesday and maybe the headers I guess. I had planned to
    get the HPtuner but that's a bit cheaper so I can do the following.


    Quote Originally Posted by geldartb View Post
    im assuming your doing the 3500 on a 99 alero like stated in the thread title. if yes than the headers will bolt up no problem. they will fit like a glove.

    Good to know about the ceramic coating. I wasn't sure on it because I
    thought I read it was for racing... I messed around with a couple shops
    to fix some exhaust leaks on my truck and most of them were tools.

    It was a small leak on 2.5in piping and they quoted me upward to $700
    to fix it. I went to a smaller shop and they didn't have a big enough bender
    (or something like that,) but they said a good shop would charge around
    $150 to cut off the bad part and weld in a new piece. The same thing
    when my friend replaced the muffler on his Cavalier, they charged over 100.
    We bought the muffler and hangers and even removed the old hangers!

    I'll ask the mechanic I'm having pull the motor and transmission because
    he's a decent guy. God I miss having a huge garage.


    Quote Originally Posted by asylummotorsports View Post
    Those headers are actually designed for an Alero so they should match up to your exhaust, or at least be close.

    And ceramic coating will make them last longer and look better.

    I forget how much S&S charges. You may be able to get it done cheaper locally.

    They come with header gaskets which are fine.

    Off-topic, but would LSD be good for regular driving? I would think
    it would be good for snowy climates but then again I haven't found any
    LSD packages for the 4t45e. If it did exist I would think it would a good
    idea. Alero's are light cars so it should help tractions on icy days; or the
    get up and go launches.

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    Did you check with Jeff at Engineered Performance?

    He can probably build an LSD for it.

    tech@engineered.net

    He can be a little hard to get ahold of, but his stuff is bullet proof and virtually invisible during normal driving.

    I have three HARD race seasons on mine and not a whimper.

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    You'll have to swap to the 3400 crank pulley to use the external trigger, that's actually smaller than the stock 3500 pulley so it's technically underdrive


    1989 Camaro RS; Cammed 3500 swap, 45mm ITB's, Street/Strip Kitted 700R4, 3500 stall, Megashifter, 3.73 posi, EQ- LT headers, 2.25" True Duals, X pipe, etc...

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    I would do the headers first the hp tuners, easyer to install the headers when installing the engine. My Alero is running good on the stock ecm.
    1999 Olds Alero 2.4 to 3500 swap (running). totaled by a honda
    1992 lumina 4 door 3500 3spd auto 15.020 @93.5 mph
    1984 Cavalier type 10 hatch 3100 5spd!!!
    14.96@91.47 in the 1/4
    9.63@74.36 in the 1/8th
    14.30 on slicks! scrapped due to rust!

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