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I'm still waiting for a reply. I was excited to hear of a N/A LQ1 with 225 at the wheels but now i'm depressed. So if you, Kevwood, are going to back up your claims and post mods please do so or say you aren't because No answer is an answer IMHO.
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06-13-2005 05:57 PM
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Captain of the Failboat
Give him time. He isn't going to be sharing a whole lot at the moment (ive been talking to him via email). I will say things sound legit but yeah, we will have results soon enough.
Ben
60DegreeV6.com
WOT-Tech.com
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Just for your alls knowledge the 90 prototype was not built with the 3.2 dohc. It was built with a stock 2.8 engine that came in the fiero and was later redone with the 3.2.
Chris
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Z34 red, auto, written of by a red light runner.
Z34 white, 5 speed, stored in Canada
Mercedes-Benz C20K, Dubai
Mercedes-Benz CLK500 AMG, Dubai
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Captain of the Failboat
0wned. I think I banned him again anyway so he may not reply:P
Ben
60DegreeV6.com
WOT-Tech.com
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So it looks as if 275 is attainable and more......Yeah Kenwood.
If we only had the cams and headers.
95 MC Z34 Black
Running strong with new engine, transmission, brakes and suspension.
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Originally Posted by
napatiger
So it looks as if 275 is attainable and more......Yeah Kenwood.
If we only had the cams and headers.
I might be out of my leauge here but I found headers for 96-97's
http://www.milzymotorsports.com/
Also how do you get Kevwood's link to work?
Jason
96 GTP 5 speed
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Captain of the Failboat
It wont cause we just changed our software setup.
http://60degreev6.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=6819
I copied the t= part and put it in where its normally p= now
Ben
60DegreeV6.com
WOT-Tech.com
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Had a conversation with an engineer who had some insight as to how this engine may have had more power in testing and prototype then it does in actual production...
He's worked as an engineer working on aftermarket products (mostly headers) and one of the things that GM may have done while testing this engine is use headers on the engine test stand, along with a tunable intake (meaning they can change the runner lengths without much effort) to get the max horsepower/tq along with the the ease of changing cam timing this too can help with some of the power gains/losses ... I think we can see some of this in the the production engines with the fact that the cam gears are not key'd for any one location and have a full 360* of adjustability.
To me, this makes sense, if you were to have tuned headers to increase the scavenging effect, and be able to tune the intake manifold to match those headers, and then set the cams and tune the program for a given RPM range, you could get GOBS of power, do I think they did this, well yeah, GM, Ford, Mopar, all these companies start out making as much power out of engines as they can, and they dial 'em back from there for both reliability and cost of engineering all the parts to fit 'round it, such as the transmissions, engine cradle, engine mounts, axels, bearings, and so much more.
Remember, when you start adding power, you'll break more then just your transmission, you'll break all sorts of things, now imagine if you had to re-engineer all these other things to make it work right ... Cost would tower over projected sales, so a balance has to be made.
do I think we can get these kinds of numbers (on an engine dyno) sure, why couldn't we. There's a combined knowledge of automobiles on this site, and really, we're all here to help one an other out -
--Dave.
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Originally Posted by
Dave
Had a conversation with an engineer who had some insight as to how this engine may have had more power in testing and prototype then it does in actual production...
He's worked as an engineer working on aftermarket products (mostly headers) and one of the things that GM may have done while testing this engine is use headers on the engine test stand, along with a tunable intake (meaning they can change the runner lengths without much effort) to get the max horsepower/tq along with the the ease of changing cam timing this too can help with some of the power gains/losses ... I think we can see some of this in the the production engines with the fact that the cam gears are not key'd for any one location and have a full 360* of adjustability.
To me, this makes sense, if you were to have tuned headers to increase the scavenging effect, and be able to tune the intake manifold to match those headers, and then set the cams and tune the program for a given RPM range, you could get GOBS of power, do I think they did this, well yeah, GM, Ford, Mopar, all these companies start out making as much power out of engines as they can, and they dial 'em back from there for both reliability and cost of engineering all the parts to fit 'round it, such as the transmissions, engine cradle, engine mounts, axels, bearings, and so much more.
Remember, when you start adding power, you'll break more then just your transmission, you'll break all sorts of things, now imagine if you had to re-engineer all these other things to make it work right ... Cost would tower over projected sales, so a balance has to be made.
do I think we can get these kinds of numbers (on an engine dyno) sure, why couldn't we. There's a combined knowledge of automobiles on this site, and really, we're all here to help one an other out -
--Dave.
Damn, that was pretty much the best way to some the title of this thread and this board up.
1992 Lumina Z34 | 3.4L 207ci DOHC 60º V6; Getrag 284 |
1994 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP | 3.4L 207ci DOHC 60º V6; Hydra-Matic 4T60E |