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07-05-2007, 12:48 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 14
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3100 lower intake leaking, tips needed.
So looks like my lower intake is leaking under the TB side. Leaking out of the engine at least. Think I read this is a common problem.
Any tips on getting the coollant passage to seal well.
I redid the heads and intake a couple years (felpro set) ago due to a coolant leak into the #6 cyl.
Looks like I'll be pulling it again and want any feedback on getting a longer lasting seal.
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07-05-2007, 01:01 AM
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#2
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 122
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I have had very good luck with the felpro gaskets make sure all of the old gasket is off of everything and you should be good to go
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07-05-2007, 03:25 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: south texas
Posts: 1,459
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what year 3100? You might want to do the intake manifold swap if your car is a 1996 or newer, and then on top of that, you will probably want to get the intake gaskets from GM.
When I bought a set of felpro gaskets for the 3100, they were the older style. They crush and cause the coolant to leak.
If your engine has the large port intake, you will want the GM ones. They have the metal inserts that keep the gasket from crushing.
I have seen some solid metal gaskets (I think the new felpro ones are solid metal). I am not a big fan of those either seeing that they transfer heat more than the GM ones do. The 3100 was better than the 3.1 in the fact that the manifolds were isolated from each other. The upper intake on the 3100 does not get near as hot as the 3.1 does. If you put the metal gaskets in there, then you get more heat into the manifold, and lose some power.
Most people want cooler air going into the engine. That is why they do CAI. If you do the metal gaskets, you are kinda defeating the purpose.
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Taylor
1988 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3100 MPFI
1990 Pontiac Grand Prix STE 3.1 MPFI
1995 Cutlass Supreme SL 3.4 TDC
1996 Pontiac Grand Prix SE Mary Kay Edition (rest in pieces)
"find something simple and complicate it"
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07-05-2007, 07:14 AM
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4T60-E killa
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Posts: 664
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funny, i never thought about that, but i deffinatly noticed the old 2.8/3.1 monifolds got HOT and the 3x00 ones are cool.slighty warm to the touch
on my cars anyways, i allways wondered why lol
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07-05-2007, 09:21 AM
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#5
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 14
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Yes it is a 96 3100 so what is this manifold swap? Are you going to an earlier model of intake or what?
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07-05-2007, 12:03 PM
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#6
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: south texas
Posts: 1,459
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i sent you the PM. It is going to a newer setup.
Here is a pic of the intake swap on my 1996 Grand Prix 3100.
And here is a pic of the late 1999 3100 (large port) that I dropped into my 1988 Cutlass Supreme.
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Taylor
1988 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3100 MPFI
1990 Pontiac Grand Prix STE 3.1 MPFI
1995 Cutlass Supreme SL 3.4 TDC
1996 Pontiac Grand Prix SE Mary Kay Edition (rest in pieces)
"find something simple and complicate it"
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07-05-2007, 02:54 PM
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The Pink Car
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Warwick, RI
Posts: 1,559
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I miss my pretty painted intakes.....
I gotta finish porting my 3100 plenum and get it painted!
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Got Lope?
3500/3400 Hybrid, Stage 4 Boost Cam 216/240 .050 dur .517/.568 lift 112LSA
Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Modified headers.
Rebuilt 4t60e, FD9 2095 stall Heavy Duty Converter, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
13.996@98.06 < N/A Hybrid 4T60E Combo
Daily 1995 OBDII Beretta Stock 3400, 4T60E, 3.06, 2060 stall.
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07-05-2007, 03:00 PM
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#8
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: south texas
Posts: 1,459
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mine look bad now. At one time, it was the looks that were important to me, but I finally got my head on straight. I don't care how it looks now as long as it works.
Runs CORRECTLY FIRST
Performance SECOND
Interior THIRD
Exterior FOURTH
Stereo LAST
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Taylor
1988 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3100 MPFI
1990 Pontiac Grand Prix STE 3.1 MPFI
1995 Cutlass Supreme SL 3.4 TDC
1996 Pontiac Grand Prix SE Mary Kay Edition (rest in pieces)
"find something simple and complicate it"
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07-05-2007, 03:27 PM
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Dr. Feelgood
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New York
Posts: 1,491
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FYI those metal gaskets have a very thick rubber sealing gasket around every intake and coolant port. I really don't think that will transfer more heat than a plastic one.
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Brian
'95 Cutlass Supreme- The Gas Saver
3400 SFI V6, 4T60e
Comp Cam grind, LS6 valve springs, OBD2 swap, 3400 PCM
2.5" DP/ Magnaflow Cat/ Hooker Aerochambers/ Resonator
3500 Intake manifold/ milled 59mm TB <--- awaiting Change
TGP steering Rack/ 34mm Sway Bar/Vert STB/ KYB GR2's
'00 Camaro- LS1/4L60e-sports car for the 20th century. 13.28@106.5
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07-05-2007, 10:17 PM
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#10
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: chi-town
Posts: 226
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the reason the 2.8/3.1 gets hotter than the 3100 is the 3.1 tb has coolant lines going into it.
the 3100 does'nt
yea the latest felpro gasket set is the one, and once it's replaced no more lim leak.
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1992 nissan maxima se (190hp/205tQ)
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